Do You Turn Your Computers Off At Night?

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With energy costs heading continuously upwards, Fujitsu is now suggesting that companies should tell their employees to turn PCs off at night to save energy. ?Of course, for many, many years, this has been a very popular question for computer users — as can be seen by the number of results on a simple Google search. ?There are, clearly, pros and cons to leaving the computer on and turning it off — so with that in mind, we’ve set up our own extremely unscientific survey. ?Some people insist that constantly restarting your computer is actually worse for it than just leaving it on. ?Others claim the energy savings are a much bigger deal, and that argument may gain support with energy costs getting higher every day.


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Chris H says:

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It’s a nice suggestion but… not practical in a corporate environment. Most companies will send their patches and updates down at night. The company we outsource our desktop maintenance to, runs them at night along with the offsite backups.

I myself run a script at night on all of our computers to update our database.

0n1l1nk says:

No Subject Given

What about web servers or file servers? They NEED to be up 24/7 and run a lot more power then your standard office/home PC. It makes no sence with energy saving features such as “turn hard disks off after [time]” or “system standby after [time]”

I run a small web server off my home pc, and even though I turn disks off after an hour, it still works when it is accessed so… I think it is just a stupid thing to ask people to do.

dorpus says:

Finding the UMVUE

So you want to find the UMVUE (Uniformly Minimum Variance Unbiased Estimator) of theta = proportion of people who turn off their computers at night?

Would it make sense to perform a two-stage sequential sampling experiment, in which the number of turned-off PC’s are recorded on different nights? Assuming a Bernoulli trial, then we could solve for the UMVUE of 1/theta.

lisa says:

What damage?

It looks like the most popular answer alleges bad things will come of turning off your computer (or rather turning it back on). Urban legend tells me it takes more electricity to turn on a lamp than to keep it on for an hour, more gas to start my car than to idle it for 3 hours, and now terrible things are going to happen to my computer, too. So, please be specific, vague mumblings about “power surges” don’t tell me much.

ted says:

Re: What damage?

Damage how? i dont see how doing anything that the computer is built for can damage it. If it is damaging to power a computer on and off, can i sure the manufacture for putting a power button on the copmuter?

Personally i leave it on. no matter how much i get bitched at for my power consumption. In the winter i dont have to turn on my baseboard heaters, thats what my computer and 21″ monitors are for 🙂

Pasta Sauce (user link) says:

Re: Re: What damage?

Well, its like a light bulb, you you flip it on and off like a strobe its going to burn out faster. same with a computer, I doubt you going to flip it on an off alot and its more complex so the damage won’t be as obvious.

However, I still turn mine off because who ever wired my house did a very crappy job and I doubt it was up to code when this house was built. (the circut for one room actually controls only half of the room and half of another. The one that controls “my room” only turns on and off two walls in my room, the room next door, and part of the living room)

I used to just put it into sleep mode, but i got a video card that has a fan on the heat sync and it doesn’t power up when i wake it up, and my new power suply doesn’t respond to the sleep command, so its pretty much pointless putting it in sleep.

Thus I have to shut it down 🙁
It keeps my room warm during the day but when i wake up, its cold! rawr!

Michael says:

Re: Re: Re: What damage?

I have a computer that I have turned off and on for 8 years with no failures…I have others that have been on for 5 years with no failures..I had one that was left on… fry…dust build up in between 6 month cleaning.. caused heat build up. my home is in semi rural area.. kinda of dusty..the computers I have now have transparent sides making it easy to check dust condition.

Mark says:

Re: What damage?

Damage can occur to hard drives due to stopping and starting. The microscopic heads that convert between electrical and magnetic signals are usually parked on the disk(s) when power is off. Attractive forces between the heads and the disk can build up while the heads are parked, causing damage on restart. Whether this justifies leaving a computer on is still a question involving many other factors.

Sohrab says:

No Subject Given

You guys must consider this, we are a nitch on this community who uses computer in their offices and such.

think about the millions of people who work avg. jobs at Malls, Groceries, dealerships etc. that arent on huge servers or just dont even have access to a computer during work hours and their computers at home. Millions of us have computers that we can probably just shut down at night.

Joe Schmoe says:

No Subject Given

For me, it’s a productivity decision – I’ll leave mine on as opposed to re-opening all the crap that I’m working on.

No one has mentioned or gleaned, that by telling users to power off overnight, the biggest benefit might just be that they are re-booting [Windows]. i.e. – What’s the first thing you get told by IS to do when you have a problem?

jeremiah (user link) says:

Back in teh day....

In the late 80’s/early 90’s, hard drives were particularly supceptible to physical failures (remember “brakes” on the Seagate ST157N’s?? MFM?? RLL?? ‘Nuff said…) so it was advised to simply leave the systems on all the time. Also, the epoxy used to make PC components was more prone to cracking under temperature variances (from cold to warm as the system was used, back to cold when turned off).

In modern PC’s, this is not so much an issue. Yes, leaving your computer on indefinitely will certainly extend its life, but PC’s today are not as subject to breaking simply because of temperature.

I have an acquaintance who’s a (retired) engineer for Seagate and Maxtor. He tells me to leave my drives running because the temperature variances can encourage condensation – the #1 killer of hard drives today.

Oh yeah, and of course, your viewpoint on this topic is myopic! lol, j/k Techdirt.

~j~

Tony says:

Re: Back in the day....

Likewise, before the majority of chips were surface mounted, the on/off cycle could and would effect the pin contacts between the chip and socket. This “chip walk” was often remedied in back-rooms by techs whacking each chip with the butt-end of a screwdriver. Not something you want your customers to see… 🙂

alva sites says:

Re: Re:monitor off

Hi You are the first I have read about turning off monitor off ..I do same ..Also dust is rhe worst thing to damage computer ..I take this thing apart and run vaccumcleaner on reverce dust blows all over.. This thing was outdated when I bought it..Needed something to learn on that was 5 year ago.Just use it for tv,e-mail & music (no downloads)Leave on works better..This thing is a Magitronic mfd 1996 well outdated ,,It do what I wont it to do..I work at radio shack ,tv repair, tryed out new computers ,,can”t find nothing that suits my taste..stupid looking pieces of junk..
Got everthing backed up..someday it will go;;

Thomas in Sweden says:

Save power without turning off

I think there will be a lot of discussions of computer power consumption in the future. There is already a lot of things happening in this area. Intel has for instance their M-processors that are primarily intended for portables, but are increasingly popular in stationary computers too. Not primarly because the consume less power, but becuse they produce less heat. More heat requires more fans, more expensive PSUs and more noice from the fans. The generated heat is directly proportional to the power consumption.
By using technology used in portables in all computers, a lot of energy can be saved.
In portables there are things like clocking down the CPU when idle, turning of the graphics card and other parts that are not used. The HD can be turned off to of course.
With this technology in a computer, you will save a lot of energy also when you work with the computer and you might not have to turn it off by night since the power consumption will be low when it is not used.

today says:

wol

If you do consider Wake On Lan (WOL), which uses the ‘magic packet’ be sure to understand the full impact of the commands you have to enter on your routers.

If you use ‘ip directed-broadcast’, which you will if you aren’t on the local subnet, be sure to use access lists to limit what machines can send broadcasts. Specifically, only allow your management station.

Otherwise, you may be opening your network up to future problems.

tomorrow says:

WOL

Its fine and dandy that people turn off their computers. But my problem is I have some script some where that I cannot find that is sending magic packets to all the computer on the network, their are only a few that are configured to accept the Magic Packet and turn on, but as a problem they are turning on when we don’t want them too. And a question that might be for some where else, How do I tell the Network card to only accept a magic packet from like 4am-7am? so as the computer doesn’t turn on an hour after the owner leaves, this is a horrible dilemma.

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