Google On The High Seas

from the yo-ho-ho-an'-a-barrel-o'-patents dept

It looks like Google has had enough of the taxes, rules, and regulations associated with hosting its data in various countries around the world. Its solution? Floating data centers anchored beyond national boundaries. The idea seems pretty ridiculous on its face. The costs associated with maintaining a fleet of barges, in addition to the challenges that would arise regarding server maintenance, power requirements (wave power? really?), and security (protection from real pirates), make the effectiveness of such a solution highly questionable. To make this story even more ridiculous, Google has filed for a patent on the idea, presumably so that it can reap the huge rewards when everyone else realizes that hosting data at sea is the way to go. To be fair, this is likely just a defensive patent filing — given Google’s past patent activities. But what does it say about the patent system when a company has to waste the resources of the patent office, on an idea that’s probably never intended to be implemented, with the possible effect of preventing someone else from innovating in a related area? And, even though the idea as proposed may be silly, what if someone else could make something similar work? Do we want a single company to have the exclusive right to attempt something like this? The patent system is supposed to promote progress, not be an anchor dragging it down.

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Dino says:

Patents? We don't need no stinking Patents!!

I think it’s funny that Google patented the idea, but they’re planning on utilizing the idea in international waters to get away from regulation. If someone else DID want to copy the idea, whats going to stop them? They’re in international waters! Away from regulation!

To Google:
Nyah Nyah! We took your idea!

From: The Copycat-ers

angry dude says:

I got a better idea for Google

Place your data center on the Moon !!!
Hey, I am not even going to patent it
On the Moon Google founder punks can employ some aliens which posess superior intelligence and don’t need to breath,
eat, drink or have sex
Plus no more H1B visa scandals
Great idea !!!

But serioslly, may the good storm destroy those Google IT slavery barges

Jake says:

I really can’t see this getting beyond a feasibility study or two; I can see them siting a few converted barges in major cities with more harbour space than reasonably-priced real estate, but site it more than a few thousand yards off the coast and the expenses start piling up; wave turbines are pretty effective in open ocean, but laying and maintaining a fibre-optic cable that far would not be cheap. Throw in resupply for whoever Google find to man this thing and the expenses are going to pile up very fast. And good luck insuring one in the Gulf of Mexico or the North Sea!

Energy says:

I bet this is more about energy than anything else. Besides the human element, electricity, much of which is due to cooling, is one of their biggest costs. There was a story about either Google or MS dropping servers down into a cave to keep them cool. This could be similar…drop them down into the water where the temperature and natural cooling system (waves) would fix the cooling problem. Then with wave energy, they could run the servers..

AJ says:

Don't forget...

…what will they do about security? They’d have to finance their own navy to protect them from attack by pirates or people with a grudge against Google. Being in international waters and not paying taxes (which support the military and police), they’d have to do something to protect that large investment. Sinking a barge or capturing it would be a pretty big loss for them.

Enrico Suarve says:

Re: Don't forget...

They’d have to form a Google Navy

I always quite fancied joining the navy but the idea of getting involved in dumbassed wars started for political reasons

I’m sure a Google Navy wouldn’t do any actual invading (fingers crossed), and the uniforms are bound to be amazing – I’m picturing sergeant Peppers but with more O’s

Google Boys are you listening? Where do I sign up?

Fighting Pirates with logic bombs, wrestling giant squid with spagetti – back in time for tea and youTube of the day – ooh arrr!!

Kamu says:

The point to using floating barges is using sea water to cool the computers, which is a huge draw on power.

I don’t understand the really negative tone from the article.

“But what does it say about the patent system when a company has to waste the resources of the patent office, on an idea that’s probably never intended to be implemented, with the possible effect of preventing someone else from innovating in a related area?”

Heaven forbid them wasting PO resources. They could be approving extremely vague patents with those resources!

Also, what more ‘innovating’ could be done in this area? Google has innovated and this is the outcome.

“And, even though the idea as proposed may be silly, what if someone else could make something similar work? Do we want a single company to have the exclusive right to attempt something like this?”

How is it silly? Have you even done the slightest bit of research? Where is your calculations to prove that it is not feasible to power a datacentre on wave power? Keeping in mind the huge savings of using seawater as cooling.

Michael Costanza (profile) says:

Kamu,

The point to using floating barges is using sea water to cool the computers, which is a huge draw on power.

As I read it, they would use wave *power* to cool and power the servers. They couldn’t just throw sea water over the servers — the idea would be to use wave energy to power the cooling systems (similar to those in current land-based data centers) as well as the servers themselves. It seems that floating data centers would present all of the challenges of their dry-land counterparts, plus a bunch of new challenges. So you don’t get to just dump the costs of cooling into the sea.

Heaven forbid them wasting PO resources.

I get your point about wasting PO resources — wouldn’t it be nice to keep them occupied with harmless nonsense all the time? But the problem is that the incredible growth in patent filings, as everyone seeks to patent anything and everything, has only led to more bad patents being granted, and more bloating of government. And wasting PO resources means wasting taxpayer money.

Also, what more ‘innovating’ could be done in this area? Google has innovated and this is the outcome.

What more innovating could be done? Who’s to say? That’s the point. If the PO grants such a patent to Google, we may never find out. Do you honestly believe that Google’s ideas here are the final outcome of innovation in this area?

How is it silly? Have you even done the slightest bit of research? Where is your calculations to prove that it is not feasible to power a datacentre on wave power? Keeping in mind the huge savings of using seawater as cooling.

I never said it’s not feasible to power a data center on wave power. But this idea is not as simple as that. Google is talking about anchoring data centers many miles off shore, in what is often a pretty volatile environment. So, while it may be possible — maybe even relatively easy — to harness the power of waves to run the servers and the cooling systems, additional costs associated with protecting the electronic equipment from the corrosive sea water, preventing damage due to movement (these are floating barges), insurance, security, efficient, reliable communications technology and so on, do make this idea appear pretty far-fetched, at this point. I’m skeptical that there are “huge savings” to be realized.

But perhaps more innovation could address many of these issues.

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