Prosecutors Come To Their Senses; Drop Charges Against Girl Arrested For Incidental 'New Moon' Filming
from the took-'em-long-enough dept
There has been a ton of publicity about the young woman who was jailed and facing felony charges, because she caught snippets of the film New Moon while filming parts of her sister’s birthday party. The outrage over this has been loud and widespread — causing backlash against the movie theater and the movie studio that put out the movie. Even the director of the movie was complaining about the arrest and prosecution. Realizing that this was a bad situation all around, it looks like prosecutors have come to their senses and dropped the charges against the young woman, though we still have the same ridiculous law in place that made this situation possible. Shouldn’t we also be looking to change that right about now?
Comments on “Prosecutors Come To Their Senses; Drop Charges Against Girl Arrested For Incidental 'New Moon' Filming”
yay! I, for one, am glad everybody up north isn’t insane.
and yes the law needs to be fixed, badly, but i am glad she got off the hook.
“There has been a ton of publicity about the young woman…“
For once the use of the word “ton” was not hyperbole. I was shocked at how much press this instance received. I would like to hope that it will lead to some real change, but it won’t.
From now one do the right thing and simply shoplift the DVD. That’s only a misdemeanor offense without any jail time.
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From now one do the right thing and simply shoplift the DVD. That’s only a misdemeanor offense without any jail time.
Wow, stunning. I guess this is what happens when the penalties for breaking a law are set not by how much harm is done by the crime, but by how much the lobbyists want to stop the crime from happening.
So prosecutors have more sense than theater chains?
I’m glad for the woman, but the theater chain should be held criminally liable for this abuse of the law.
simple solution
Avoid theaters, as an unacceptable risk.
Re: simple solution
Absolutely. They are over-priced, risky in regard to catching all sorts of germs, and this stupidity will repeat itself again and some poor guy without such a great publicity story to save his ass is going to get a book thrown at him over it.
The once US President Ulysses Grant once said:
“I know no method to secure the repeal of bad or obnoxious laws so effective as their stringent execution”
There is some wisdom to that, I think.
Re: execution
I know no method to secure the elimination of the bad and obnoxious MPAA as effective as their stringent and painful execution
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Hollywood is like an undead hydra. I blame Scientology.
Hey, were these laws conceived of in secret? The implementation of ACTA is going to be a hoot.
Aye, the MPAA needs to be sued by the girl as well as Muvico.
And what if this case had not received so much attention? Would this case still be dismissed? I would like to think so, but it makes you wonder…
Thanks to the internet, this girl didn’t have to wait for a trial. Her story was broadcast to the masses very quickly. She was found not guilty by a “jury of her peers” before a trial had even been scheduled. Because of the response this story generated, prosecutors already knew it would be a losing battle.
The internet can be a swift tool for justice it would appear.
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Doesn’t always work like that, unfortunately. The “court of public opinion” can be much more harsh than a court of law, even when the facts are on the defendant’s side.
It just so happened that this law was unpopular with the people and was outrageous enough to get the right response.
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Yes, the pendulum does swing both ways. I was not suggesting that the internet “jury” be a replacement for a real court.
And I don’t think it was the law that was so unpopular, but rather the way that the theater and police enforced it that generated the outrage.
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“The “court of public opinion” can be much more harsh than a court of law”
Sure, because you want the court of public opinion to be nice to big corporations who transgress and mean to individuals who might do anything that might remotely threaten the profit margins of rich corporations. It’s only YOUR judgment that matters, no one elses, of course. Hence the public should be censored from things that might cause the public to become angry at the evil actions of huge corporations. and outside the Internet the evil likes of you have accomplished just this.
Or, better yet, why don’t big corporations not act unethically and maybe the public will be more sympathetic towards them.
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“It just so happened that this law was unpopular with the people”
Yes, because you have no regard for morality you only think in terms of “what’s popular with the people” and what’s not. You don’t think in terms of “right” and “wrong” because anything that promotes your selfish desires is “right” and anything that opposes it is “wrong” according to you.
Or maybe you should try and think in terms of ethics, instead of public relations and how that affects your profits, and perhaps you will be more popular with the public.
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I see that you are attacking someone, but I don’t have the faintest idea what your point is. Who is “you” here? The poster? The people who disagree with this law? The studios? The theater? Or does it change from paragraph to paragraph?
Customers as enemies
When businesses start treating customers as the enemy, it is only a matter of time before customers adopt the same attitude about the business.
Re: Customers as enemies
The clock stopped ticking a long time ago.
Well, the case was dropped because both the theater operator and the producer have to agree and the producer didn’t bother; so the prosecutors dropped their case.
My question remains though – why was the theater owner so adamant in pressing charges? What’s in it for them?
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The producers may be demanding zero intelligence on these things. Fail to prosecute and we fail to ship the next big release.
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About $500 if memory serves…
laws for laws sake
“Shouldn’t we also be looking to change that right about now?”
Political grandstanding only makes more laws, rarely does it repeal existing ones. Thats because it’s easy to make laws, thats how most countries are setup today. Make laws for laws and then more laws to regulate the laws for laws and so on.. Somehow I get the feeling it’s politically risky with little or no upshot to try and repeal a bad law. I can just picture the election mud slinging .. Red bold letters that read: X voted to legalize the filming of homosexual pornography in our schools..
Is it any wonder were a nation of litigious bastards.
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And so: the object of law is law
Note the absolute worthlessness of our mainstream media to do anything.
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observe this article at CNN.
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Good.
Open Source Trials
Who says that 13 people alone in a room should have a more valued opinion than 100 million people out in the open.
The 100 million just give a more averaged view, and less likely to be abused.
The law sucks. The punishments are cruel and unusual, and pressing charges over an accidental recording. Its just plain stupid. She didnt plan to make a profit. It was a fricking birthday party.
Honestly, try to find a person ANYWHERE who truely thinks that she is guilty and deserves to be punished. Forget the fact that I could rob a bank and recieve less jailtime.
Re: Open Source Trials
I agree, trials should be open sourced IF the defending wants them to be. If the plaintiff does not like the open nature of the trial than tough, the plaintiff can drop his/her lawsuit. It should be up to the defendant to choose whether or not the trial should be open to the public. If you initiate a lawsuit you shouldn’t have the luxury of censoring every aspect of the suit from the public.
However, perhaps there could be exceptions for those who sue corporations under certain circumstances since I do not consider corporations as individuals who deserve the same rights as individuals.
Draconian copyright laws
First you would have to have campaign finance reform.
Don't forget to rate the theater!
Ahh the sweet smell of a Streisand effectflash mob on the internet! Don’t forget to rate the theater where all this went on:
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=16195052917625124963&q=%22Muvico%2BTheate%20r%20%22%2Brosemont&hl=en&gl=us
The management there need to know there is a consequence for brainlessness.
new moon arrest
The legal system is more involved and interested in getting court fees than it is in the spirit of the law