GOP Belatedly Realizes Its Embrace Of Propaganda And Conspiracy Results In Bizarre And Unpopular Candidates

from the head-full-of-pudding-and-hate dept

Frustrated by factual reality, science, and an independent press, the GOP and its wealthy backers have spent the better part of forty years building an alternative reality propaganda machine across AM radio, local broadcasting (with the help of Sinclair Broadcasting), fake “pink slime” local newspapers, cable news (OANN, Newsmax, Fox), and now the Internet.

While this propaganda machine has adequately insulated the modern Trump and Desantis GOP from the pesky menace of factual reality, there have been some downsides. The GOP’s belief that it no longer has to participate in public debates, for example, has resulted in a crop of insular, unpopular, and strange candidates who don’t have broader appeal — because they’re not participating in factual reality.

Amusingly, at least some Republican advisors appear to have realized this, and are urging the party to spend more time participating in real debates hosted by actual journalists. Or, at least, having debates where actual journalists are in attendance for some window dressing:

A Republican familiar with the conversations said the RNC is considering pairing mainstream outlets with conservative outlets as co-moderators, a regular feature of 2016 debates as well, to address member concerns about bias. The RNC’s proposal request includes a section for networks to fill out that dives into whether they’d be open to partnerships.

But part of the goal, the person said, would be to ensure candidates don’t get “softball questions that aren’t of substance” and that they are forced to “talk about policy and give answers.” The RNC meeting notably comes after a midterms in which a number of candidates popular in conservative media circles struggled to connect with independent voters in the general election.

Semafor, like most mainstream U.S. political outlets, can’t candidly acknowledge that Republicans built a hugely influential and successful propaganda machine, lest it upset sources, advertisers, or event sponsors. So their story kind of amusingly tap dances around the fact that a lot of the party’s problems in the midterms stemmed from out of touch delusion built on the back of a massively successful party propaganda machine.

It’s not clear that the party of Trump and Desantis, whose entire political careers involve agitating and dividing Americans using a rotating platter of unhinged conspiracy, bigotry, and outrage over everything from more energy efficient game consoles to inclusive candy branding, will ever actually listen to the handful of advisors warning about the impact of this isolation. In part because outrage and division is genuinely the only semi-meaningful policies they have.

GOP propaganda exploits a parade of U.S. policy failures across media (consolidation, death of local news), education (poor to no media savviness training), journalism (failure to develop independent funding models for an independent press), and the Internet (centralized social media platforms susceptible to the whims of unhinged billionaires).

But at some point, you’d imagine that the discourse and culture will develop policy fixes for some of these issues, and an immune response to candidates whose entire platform relies on unhinged conspiracies, bottomless outrage over minutiae, and vicious bigotry.

The GOP is hopeful that gerrymandering and propaganda will shield it from both factual and electoral reality for decades to come. And so far, that’s proven to be a solid bet, keeping a party with few substantive policies neck and neck in major races. The problem, again, is that candidates with heads full of pudding, hatred, and conspiracy theories aren’t going to appeal to the public; especially younger Americans who increasingly realize the modern Trump GOP is routinely and violently full of shit.

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David says:

You are overestimating the public

The problem, again, is that candidates with heads full of pudding, hatred, and conspiracy theories aren’t going to appeal to the public;

Such candidates perfectly well appeal to the public, and they do appeal to the largest uniform faction of it in particular. If you abandoned all pretense of government and let everything determined by lynch justice, that is the likely faction to survive.

It is not, however, the absolute majority of people, just the largest semi-uniform segment. But the margin of safety is not terribly large.

That is why de Santis is planning for the future and prohibiting anything but “patriotic” and “gender-normal” views to be presented in schools. It’s an investment into the future of a United States that will feel fully justified to terrorize any minority, or even not sufficiently aggressive majorities (like women).

Keeping the general public stupid and uneducated is a fallback to aristocratic times where the governing caste kept the majority in thrall by feeding them propaganda and goals and keeping other opinions and actions out of their reach.

It worked for millennia: it’s in our genes and they don’t change all that fast. The one thing that changed is our cultural environment, and Republicans are intent on turning the clock back on that.

And it may work.

Anonymous Coward says:

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When a large proportion of a population vote for a party without looking at the candidate, there are constituency where any candidate will get elected if they stand for the right party. That does not mean they are popular, but rather that people are disengaged from politics and vote for a party because that is the party people like them support.

Thad (profile) says:

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Such candidates perfectly well appeal to the public, and they do appeal to the largest uniform faction of it in particular.

White people? Sure, for the moment. But we’re in decline as an overall share of the population (which is really what the “younger generations are less Republican” statistic is all about). And slightly more than half of all white people are women, and the GOP’s doing its damnedest to alienate them.

Scary Devil Monastery (profile) says:

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White republican women have, so far, been stuck in a “House slave vs field slave” mindset. But, looking at the results of the “Red Wave” (😂) in the midterms the GOP shot itself in the foot when they actually caught that car – Roe v Wade they’d been pretending to chase for so long.

I’m sure the amoral agnostics still remaining in major seats within the GOP looked at that and realized that this was what Goldwater warned them about when he condemned the religious nuts trying to take over the party.

And now they’re trying to roll out legislation right out of A Handmaid’s Tale across every red state that leaves a LOT of white republican women in those states wondering whether that’s really what they want for their s.o. and offspring.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

at some point, you’d imagine that the discourse and culture will develop … an immune response to candidates whose entire platform relies on unhinged conspiracies, bottomless outrage over minutiae, and vicious bigotry

I can imagine myself growing wings and flying across the country. That doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. I mean, more than 70 million people still voted for Trump in 2020 despite [gestures at the atrocities], so let’s not act like conservative grievance politics and policies are going anywhere any time soon. I mean, look at DeSantis’s Florida: They passed a law that legally turned certain kinds of speech from teachers into honest-to-gods “wrongspeak” that can be punished under the law.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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DeSantis is doing more to support factual reality than any woke ideologue ever has.

Woke gender ideology is false. Critical race theory is false. DIE initiatives are wasteful garbage. Migrants should not be allowed into the country without the federal government providing for them.

Calling out lies for what they are and prohibiting government employees from participating in them on company time is just what the country needs.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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“DeSantis is doing more to support factual reality than any woke ideologue ever has.”

Desantos and reality are mutually exclusive terms.
He is just another idiot dictator wannabe using the idiot dictator playbook, sans the orange face thankfully.

I have read that “woke” means being aware of .. so antiwoke means you should avoid being aware of whatever it is.
I am ignorant of many things but do not actively try to be so.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Yes, I know that woke ideologues think that any democratically elected official who opposes them is a dictator. Democracy is not for the unenlightened wrongthinkers.

Wokeness is a constellation of hard-left factually incorrect beliefs about reality. Woke ideologues seek to force everyone who can see the truth to affirm the lies.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
  -- George Orwell
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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I know that woke ideologues think that any democratically elected official who opposes them is a dictator.

Don’t blame everyone else for seeing how Republicans have drifted to fascism and authoritarianism as methods of what little “governance” they have an interest in carrying out.

The Democratic Party wants you to live your life any way you wish so long as it doesn’t impede with the rights of others. The GOP wants to impede everyone’s rights so they can be forced to live according to how the GOP believes they should live. If you think I’m wrong, ask yourself this: Which party, by virtue of its policies and platform, implicitly (and sometimes explicitly) believes in legally forcing pregnant people into carrying their pregnancies to term?

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Also: It’s hilarious that you quote 1984 in its context as a warning, then defend someone using 1984 as an actual political playbook by turning certain kinds of speech into legally enforced “wrongthink”. Methinks you didn’t even read the Cliff Notes of the book.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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What woke factoid do you consider to be the prime example of your claim it is incorrect? Please be specific because generalities are boring and nebulous.

Also, explain how a gerrymandered district produces a democratically elected official.

Side note, seems someone disagrees with you:
“Taryn Fenske, DeSantis’ Communications Director said “woke” was a “slang term for activism…progressive activism” and a general belief in systemic injustices in the country.”
https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wire/2022/12/desantis-ron-woke-florida-officials/

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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We may not like Hyman, Matty B, and their ilk around here, but we’re also not that fond of threats of violence. If that’s the only contribution someone wants to bring to a discussion, they can expect to get flagged just like they’re one of the trolls.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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There is no fetish that tumblr cannot invent and cannot celebrate. It’s telling that they have an intense need to extend the alphabet acronym beyond 26 letters just so every sexuality gets immortalized in stone.

To them fanart of Symmetra and Widowmaker getting shoved up Ashe’s anus and digested into a fart spray isn’t a bug, it’s entirely a feature. One that Stephen Stone gladly celebrates.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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DeSantis is doing more to support factual reality than any woke ideologue ever has.

And yet, under DeSantis’s new laws, a teacher who talks about slavery in terms that might “upset” white children could now be considered guilty of breaking the law. That could even mean saying something factual⁠—like, say, the race/ethnicity of the people who were enslaved and the people who did the enslaving. Sounds to me that for all your talk about “woke ideologues” (whatever the fuck that’s actually supposed to mean) indoctrinating children and punishing “wrongspeak”, conservative assholes like you turn every accusation into a confession.

Like, can you actually point to an actual course in any Florida grade school that actually teaches the actual university-level critical race theory? Can you point to any factual proof that it was being done at any point before (or even after) DeSantis passed his wrongspeak laws?

Calling out lies for what they are and prohibiting government employees from participating in them on company time is just what the country needs.

You’re not the first person to whine about “getting back to teaching the basics”. You won’t be the last. And your unoriginal whining will never be worthy of anything more than mockery and derision.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

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That’s not true at all, it’s all over education, though not always called that. The Virginia board of education was talking about it in primary ed on its website the exact same time the good little liberals were trying to tell us it doesn’t exist.

Also I find it kinda hilarious that you want to pretend because it’s taught in some law schools (it absolutely shouldn’t be) that means it’s not taught anywhere else in higher ed, let alone high school and below.

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PaulT (profile) says:

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“That’s not true at all”

Citation?

“though not always called that”

Oh, right. You people keep redefining words to pretend that your issue applies to things that have nothing to do with them.

“Also I find it kinda hilarious that you want to pretend because it’s taught in some law schools (it absolutely shouldn’t be) that means it’s not taught anywhere else in higher ed, let alone high school and below.”

Whereas I find it hilarious that because you were informed that “racial injustice exists in systems even if the individuals in that system are not themselves racist” is taught in college, that you decided it’s present in grade schools, and is a negative.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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That’s not true at all

Then you should be able to cite an actual course in any grade school in the United States that actually teaches the actual university-level critical race theory to grade school students.

though not always called that

Oh, so what is it called, then? And please cite examples of what it was teaching students.

I find it kinda hilarious that you want to pretend because it’s taught in some law schools (it absolutely shouldn’t be) that means it’s not taught anywhere else in higher ed, let alone high school and below

Can you cite any factual evidence critical race theory⁠ is taught outside of law schools/higher education in general? (Remember: Opinions don’t count as factual evidence.)

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David says:

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Population modulo gerrymandering, but yes. With optimal gerrymandering, almost half of the districts are 100% of your opposition, and a bit more than half of the districts are a bit more than 50% of your voters. Given similarly-sized districts and a two-party system, you need more than 25% of the votes to get an absolute majority by gerrymandering.

In practice, both parties perform in gerrymandering to some degree, and this 99%/51% split of district constituents is not nearly achievable.

However, “giving minorities some representation” in districting is gerrymandering. If that minority’s preferred choice of party would lead to 0 representation in agnostic districting, lumping some of them together into a district may result in them getting some representation.

Lumping all of them together will waste half the votes for a preordained outcome. So you have two ends of the spectrum in districting that can both be employed to underrepresent minorities: diluting their votes on districts they will not win, and wasting their votes on districts they will not lose.

When you are doing either, you can purport to act in good faith by claiming you were attempting to prevent the opposite mechanism of suppressing minorities.

That makes it sufficiently hard to be actually fair that it seems the purely local selection of representatives is unsuitable to end in proportional representation and instead some automatic post-election mechanism that “dithers” the national vote counts when selecting representatives should be employed. That might replace the national trickery for achieving overrepresentation with local trickery for doing the same, and the local trickery would at least average out at the national level.

Paul B says:

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So your saying land based districts, at the local level, are the problem. Sounds like the appropriate thing to do is to move to something more akin to proportional representation. That way 100% of minorities get counted and if they run there own party all they need is X% of the total to elect someone to represent them.

I am actully totally ok with this. You would then have a lot more shared power, require parties to work together if they dont get 51%, and split the hold on government that the GOP and Dems have.

Paul B says:

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Proportional to the total population, which technically does remove race.

The idea is that if you have 5 Parties, and you have a split of 20% each, each gets the voting power of 20%. So if a state got for example 5 reps, each rep would represent the 20% that voted for him.

This means you vote for a party not a person (most party’s have a front man or 2 so you know whos getting elected).

Since this results in a more fair result, obviously we cant have it because it empowers minority’s and disempowers racist assholes.

James Burkhardt (profile) says:

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But do you vote on the issues? In national elections, you have the choice of 2 candidates, whose positions are largely defined as contrasts of the other. You aren’t voting on the issues because a candidate’s position on an issue more and more is defined by what the other guys does and what the national platform is. There isn’t room for nuanced takes on any issue. As a leftist, there aren’t politicians who represent me on most issues in a given election, and when they do, voting with the party is often more important than principle. My vote “on the issues” often devolves to “this guy caucuses with R, so his vote will support worse policies than the other candidate”. Because that’s the closest I can get to voting on the issues.

Federal PR makes third party representation more viable, reducing the effects of the glaring issues with first past the post systems that traditionally narrow options. That in turn makes more varied parties and more varied stances on the issues viable in the eyes of voters.

Lsjq says:

Re: Re: Re:4 Ranked choice voting can help you there

I’m not the person you replied to. I think they have their “party or person” backward. Ranked choice voting has nothing to do with voting for a party vs voting for a person. You can still rank the candidates according to each candidate’s stances on the issues.

The person you replied to is referring to single transferable vote (STV), a proportional representation method which the Fair Representation Act in the United States would establish for House elections if passed. STV is not to be confused with the ranked choice voting method known as instant-runoff voting (IR) or alternative vote. STV can’t apply to the presidency because STV is only relevant in the context of a pool of seats to give to a pool of candidates, but IR involves voting from a separate set of candidates for each seat and can be used for the presidential election. STV is more resistant to gerrymandering.

Any method which would move us away from the two-party system would make voters better able to vote on the issues instead of on the party or on the least terrible person. (As I think of it, a choice between two bad options is barely a choice at all.) With only two parties, it’s very unlikely for any party to align well with any voter on the issues. More parties = more candidates = more sets of stances on the issues = more nuance. First-past-the-post voting for congressional representatives is one of the major factors perpetuating the two-party system (some others being the electoral college and gerrymandering). First-past-the-post disregards any votes which aren’t for the winning candidate. STV as a proportional representation system is more likely to give seats to the most popular minority candidates, while IR allows people whose first choice turns out to be a losing candidate can have their secondary preferences decide the winner unless a candidate received a majority in the first stage. Both STV and IR require a majority of votes, and each of the two methods wastes fewer votes.

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Koby (profile) says:

Glad To Debate

The GOP’s belief that it no longer has to participate in public debates, for example, has resulted in a crop of…

From the article:

“The Trump campaign attacked Scully for working for Biden roughly four decades earlier, leading the journalist to accidentally publicly reach out on Twitter to Anthony Scaramucci, Trump’s short-lived White House communications director. When the outreach frustrated Republicans, Scully said he had been hacked, something he later admitted was not true. C-SPAN then placed Scully on “administrative leave” for lying.”

Not exactly an unbiased moderator who would have been qualified to run a presidential debate. The Commission committed reputational suicide, and is now paying the price. GOP candidates are likely okay with debates; they just don’t want to get railroaded.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Do you think the GOP will do what they did in 2020 and simply put forth the exact same platform, with the exact same text, as it did in 2016 because Trump was the 2020 candidate and the party saw no need to yank back on the sort of bullshit that ultimately sank Trump’s 2020 campaign and resulted in last year’s midterms “Red Wave” becoming little more than a crimson creek?

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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They come to this conclusion every few years but keep on getting crazier

If I recall right, the 2012 victory of Barack Obama led the GOP to perform an intra-party “autopsy” that outlined many of the same problems that still plague the party today. Then Donald Trump became the GOP candidate for 2016 and that whole autopsy was thrown out in favor of embracing TRASH speech and grievance politics.

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Matthew Bennett says:

This has nothing to do with tech

This has to do with you being a whiny little liberal bitch who can’t stand that some people have different ideas than you.

And RNC didn’t withdraw “from public debates” you moron, they withdrew from a specific “bipartisan commission” that didn’t appear to be bipartisan at all and allowed Biden to hide in his basement, masking his now visible decline.

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PaulT (profile) says:

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“when my very reasonable response to your hate is “my side has all the guns” you nitwits accuse me of threatening violence”

Why would you bring up a false point about owning weapons if your point is not that you’re threatening to use them?

“You are exhibit A that liberals are just hateful and rabid.”

Yeah, people tend to react poorly to threats of violence when they’re trying to ask that less innocent people suffer from violence.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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when my very reasonable response to your hate is “my side has all the guns” you nitwits accuse me of threatening violence

It’s almost as if your immediate reaction to vitriolic language being “we’ll shoot ya if you really piss us off” is something to be genuinely afraid of given the rash of gun violence in the United States. Imagine that~.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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So you’re saying the only language you understand is violence.

Good.

I’m not a liberal as well. Conservative by upbringing, actually.

Again, the only language you understand is violence, and the only way to communicate with you…

…is through means that are very much illegal and considered assault and battery at least.

You are a white supremacist, and that is the only language you will ever understand.

“My side has the guns” is a VEILED THREAT.

Yes, I understand that I will get flagged, so be it. There’s no talking to people who gaslight, harass and threaten, in any case.

Anonymous Coward says:

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And when my very reasonable response to your hate is “my side has all the guns” you nitwits accuse me of threatening violence.

What, exactly, were you suggesting with the statement that your side has all the weaponry, if not as an implicit threat of potentially using them?

The one silver lining on the fact that your side holds most of the guns is that you’ll probably end up shooting each other with how many accidents occur. With the amount of intelligence and self-control you regularly demonstrate, most of you will end up Darwin Awardsing yourselves.

Anonymous Coward says:

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And that got Trump elected.

I’m sure you’re aware that you’re on a website called Techdirt whose comment section feuds have little influence on elections. That aside:

  1. If you spew violence, bad faith right-wing commenters will wield it as evidence that “liberals are the violent ones” (even if you aren’t a liberal). The truth is important, but ignorant people won’t learn the truth and won’t bother checking the context if they’re distracted by which speaker has the better image in the moment. The advantage of liars is that like-minded liars don’t have to worry about whether they look bad to each other. But speakers of the truth have to look good so that ignorant people and people on the fence of “who’s more right and who’s more wrong” don’t get fooled by the trolls.
  2. Posting death wishes won’t do a thing to intimidate people who would commit FBI-worthy crimes.
  3. Do you really think you’re reducing Mike’s stress by responding to trolls with death wishes, even though you don’t actually intend to commit violence? At least Matthew Bennett doesn’t post overt death wishes, never mind multiple death wishes on the same page.

Here’s my rule of thumb if you take nothing else away from this:
If a troll posts lies, you should reply with the truth (for the benefit of ignorant onlookers) or you should keep quiet.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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TDS afects those people who think that Diaper Donnie is in anyway qualified for public office.

This is the guy who thought a cognitive test was an intelligence test for crying out loud. And kept bragging about it. Why wasn’t the question asked about why the president was being given a cognitive test?

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Strawb (profile) says:

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This has nothing to do with tech. This has to do with you being a whiny little liberal bitch who can’t stand that some people have different ideas than you.

…he said as he whined about someone’s different ideas.

And as Masnick has explained, it’s his site and his rules, which means that they will write about whatever they please. You know what you can do about that? Don’t read the shit you don’t like.

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Anonymous Coward says:

A power grab?

Here’s what the For the People Act will accomplish:
• Makes Election Day a holiday
• Ends gerrymandering
• Combats anti-voting laws working their way through state legislatures
• Requires states to allow 15 days of early voting (including 2 weekends)
• Massively expands voting access through automatic voter registration and election day registration
• Increases election security by creating a national standard for voter verified paper ballots
• Implements a national voter ID standard with reasonable alternatives like utility bills or bank statements
• Requires voting machines be made in the United States
• Protects nonpartisan election officials from partisan interference
• Shines a light on dark money
• Makes it harder for billionaires and special interests to buy elections
—-
For the People Act was passed in the House. In the Senate, it is being blocked by the usual GOP suspects as well as Manchin and Sinema. McConnell calls it a “power grab”. It is a “power grab” – grabbing power for the citizens.
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According to a January 2021 poll conducted by progressive think tank Data for Progress, American voters broadly support the Freedom to Vote Act, with nearly 67% supporting the bill, even after participants were provided opposition messaging. According to the poll, 77% of Democratic voters, 68% of independent voters, and 56% of Republican voters support the act. – (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act)

That One Guy (profile) says:

Kinda hard to remove the only thing you've got left

GOP election planner 1: Okay, if we cut out the extremist batshittery to better appeal to younger voters what do we have left?

GOP election planner 2: Uhhhh….

Election planner 1: Come on, we’ve got to have something we can use to tell people about our party and why they should support us? What about all our conservative values, how about we remind people about those?!

Election Planner 2: … those are on the chopping block if we cut out all the extremist batshittery.

Election planner 1: … Shit.

Election planner 2: Yeah.

Election planner 1: … So, stick with playing to the most deranged people we can find with victim complexes and blaming anything bad on anyone but us?

Election planner 2: It’s been working great so far, and when it hasn’t-

Both: ‘It’s all the fault of the liberals!’

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jimb (profile) says:

Republicans are stuck...

“We can’t talk about our policies, because we don’t have any. We can’t talk about our results, because our past performance, the results are terrible. We can’t talk about our candidate’s character because our candidates are liars, bigots, racists, and fools. We can’t talk about our future plans, because we don’t have any besides revenge and vindictiveness.”

Republicans are stuck. The only thing they have left is distraction, more lies, and denials. So of course the consultants will propose putting a bandage on their terminal illnesses, and then the party “leaders” will deny they need it, and double-down on ‘stupid’ and ‘lies’ instead. Witness “George Santos.” Witness McCarthy’s inability to articulate any specifics on his “cut spending” ultimatum. Fools and liars.

Republicans – the party of lies and liars.

PaulT (profile) says:

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“Witness “George Santos.”

He’s a weird outlier. Although it’s a great example of how some people will vote against their stated aims to get their “team” in place, there’s a good argument that nobody who voted for him voted for a real candidate and they voted for a fictional character.

Which, I’m sure, many people wish the fringe nutters were as well, but some of the other demons were honest about who they were I suppose.

mechtheist (profile) says:

Factual reality? Fuck me, it's come to this

Really, it’s insane we’ve gotten to the point where this term is needed, and not for some fringe types, it’s needed to discuss the leadership and majority of one of our parties. It’s surreal. One of my favorite classes back in my college days was a course in Anthropology called “Non-ordinary Reality”, we read a couple of Carlos Castaneda’s books and a book or two on Shamanism and the like. Now, they’re going to need to offer courses with the same name but it’ll be in poli-sci.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, AKA the DSM, the ‘bible’ for psychology to catalog all the known mental disorders and the criteria to identify them in patients, would actually not classify these yahoos as delusional as it defines it with a ridiculous exemption:

“delusion A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly
held despite what almost everyone else believes and despite what constitutes incontro­vertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary. The belief is not ordinarily ac­cepted by other members of the person’s culture or subculture (i.e., it is not an article of religious faith).”

It’s no surprise that most of the most deluded are also wedded to religious zealotry. But FFS, why is mass delusion no longer delusion? It’s simple enough, we have to call out these cultures or subcultures [or subhuman cultures] as delusional. That’s obviously true, being adamantly impervious to facts IS a mental disorder.

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This site should be banned

1: Trump should have seized power using the Insurrection Act before the fraudulent 2020 elections.

2: Trump should have then banned Left-wing propaganda sites like Techdirt from the Internet, including full demonetization.

Sadly, he didn’t. Now we have to wait for the Left-wingers to slaughter each other in a Cambodia-style autogenocide before we can have sanity restored… 🙁

“Free speech” is a fraud.

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lol no that’s not going to happen. You boomers are all going to die first from old age or COVID, and then your pathetic soy boy offspring is going to off themselves sucking off each other’s pump-action shotguns while masturbating to the Confederacy flag.

The age of futanari enbys is coming. Your ass is ours, or your ass is grass.

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Trump should have seized power using the Insurrection Act before the fraudulent 2020 elections.

Yes, because nothing says democracy for the people than a losing president using the insurrection act to lead an insurrection against America.

BTW… if you have any real evidence of fraud in the 2020 election, I’m sure Mike Lindell would love to hear about it.

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